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Apistogramma geisleri (sp. "Smaragd"/"Emerald")

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  1. Apisto species info wanted.
    by Marco Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org> (Thu, 02 Oct 1997)
  2. Apisto species info wanted.
    by Marco Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org> (Thu, 02 Oct 1997)
  3. Apisto species info wanted.
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Fri, 14 Aug 1998)


Apistogramma geisleri, female

Apistogramma geisleri, male

photos by Ken Laidlaw


Apistogramma sp. "Smaragd", female

Apistogramma sp. "Smaragd", male

digital photos by Doug Brown


Apistogramma sp. "Smaragd"

Cruddy video by Erik Olson

Apisto species info wanted.

by Marco Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

Mike Jacobs wrote:
> =

> Marco.........just for me, and anyone who is listening....:-).  The fis=
h
> I got from Soares.......who got them from Romer (they were 1" little
> puppies but I ended up with a pair).....Dave called "smaragd"(thanks fo=
r
> the spelling).........He probably got the name from Romer and the fish
> is really what you are calling the Apisto. sp 'emerald'?  When I
> questioned Dave at the time he left them he did say that he thought
> 'smaragd' was the an indian (South American) word for green......it mus=
t
> be German?  I'm NOT trying to say anyone is wrong here......just trying=

> to straighten this name thing out.

Yes, 'smaragd' is the German word for 'emerald'.
According to Roemer's text in DATZ, smaragd original pairs were =

collected by A. Werner and E. Frecht in Northwest direction of Alenquer, =

actually a certain lake. I've met local fishermen helping those German =

people, and got my 'emerald' there.
I used the nomination 'emerald / Alenquer' to refers both to original =

name erected by Romer, and to the main city of the region where it's =

found.
 =

> Next........there is an Apisto name that is also being thrown around in=

> the last couple of months.  Apisto. sp'emerald alenquire'  or 'alenquir=
e
> emerald' .......in your opinion......same as A.sp'emerald', same as A.
> sp'smaragd', same as A. sp'emerald alenquire'??????????....

Yes, those are certainsly my fish or their offspring, and ALENQUER is =

the correct spelling (not 'alenquire').

> Thanks, and
> by the way....if they are the same fish, which name should be used???

It's hard to say which name you should apply, as I'm convinced both =

fishes are same.
The problem is that I don't know any 'rule' or 'regulation' for =

population names. Randy wrote something about this, I'm going to check =

his e-mail and suggestions.
 =

> I mean no insult or any I told-you-so's........I've been doing fish
> 'stuff' for 30+ years and names have always been a bug-a-boo.  There
> were times people and myself have been talking about the same fish and
> didn't know it and vice-versa....just trying to help.  Let's don't get
> excited......let's just get it settled and go to the next fun thing!

Ye, you're right=8A
 =

> I was going to send this private E-Mail but ah-heck this is too much fu=
n
> to let anyone out of.
> =

> Marco, or anyone.......In your experience would a pH of 5.4-5.7 on
> "Xingu Red-lobe" cause the extreme skitterishness.......I think I just
> made that word up?  I am very soft but not at 0dKH.

I've never tried 5.4-5.7, but I think it's no problem, as fishes living =

in similar water conditions as 'Xingu red-lobe' don't show any distress =

with that. I think you will have success with it!
I'm trying to fix the character of red color to upper and lower caudal =

fin rays, in wild populations it is quite variable.
 =

> Have a super day.
> =

> Mike Jacobs

Same for you.
Byebye, Marco.


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Apisto species info wanted.

by Marco Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

[...]

1) Apisto sp 'emerald' - This name was introduced by Uwe Roemer in DATZ 
years ago, from fish collected by A. Werner and E. Frecht in the 
Northwest of Alenquer, a town in front of Santarem (this one at the 
joining of Rio Tapajos and Rio Amazonas); Alenquer is on the other side 
of Rio Amazonas. I've collected the breeding pairs of your 'emerald' 
(smaragd, in German, as they were originally called) in the same place, 
and with the same fishermen, that helped Werner and Frecht years ago.
Apisto sp 'emerald' seems to be a very colorful population of A. 
geisleri, a species found near that (Alenquer) locality from several 
collecting points nearby. (if you want more details why it should be A. 
geisleri, I can detail it to you on a further e-mail).
Males of 'emerald' have a beautiful emerald-green metallic color over 
the sides of body, yellow on lower cheeks and mouth, and also red 
markings on gill cover.
It is quite an easy species to breed, and produces a lot of fry.
It can be successfully bred in similar water conditions to its biotope 
(pH 6.0-6.5, 0.5 dGH, 0 dKH).



Apisto species info wanted.

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com



Ken Laidlaw wrote:

> > > A.sp.emerald
> >
> > This is the same as A. sp. Smaragd. Check the Aqualog book.  It's a
> > regani-complex fish.
>
> Is the A. sp emerald a colour form of A.geisleri?
> Making it A.geisleri "emerald".
>
> Thanks,
> Ken.
>

According to Kullander, it's just a color form of A. geisleri.

Mike Wise

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