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Apistogramma viejita

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  1. veijitas
    by Frauley/Elson <fraulels/minet.ca> (Wed, 21 Jan 1998)
  2. Sv: veijitas
    by Frauley/Elson <fraulels/minet.ca> (Wed, 21 Jan 1998)
  3. Mamore/veijita
    by Frauley/Elson <fraulels/minet.ca> (Tue, 08 Sep 1998)
  4. Ap. viejita
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Tue, 06 Oct 1998)


photo by Ken Laidlaw

veijitas

by Frauley/Elson <fraulels/minet.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

Anton E. H=F8gh wrote:

 =

> I have just startet my tank again after some 14 years, and are trying o=
ut
> Apistos. My tank is roughly 62 Imp. galls. with 3 pairs of
> dwarfs.Microgeophagus ramirezi, microgeophagus altispinosa and some I
> bought under the name Apisto Viejita. Has any one experience with, or e=
ven
> heard about last mentioned? I would be very happy for any information..=
=2E
> =

> Anton Hoegh

Hello Anton,
Veijitas are a nice, generally easy to keep apisto. I found mine spawned
regularly in 140 ppm water, if peat filtration was used. =

Actually, they're my favourite apisto - you got lucky there. They are
becoming more common than they were, but they're still not something you
encounter every day.
Thay can be aggressive among themselves - I was never able to harem
spawn them even when I had dozens. They form pairs. Also, as odd as it
sounds, the females were active but unless the tank was well-planted, I
always found my males to be shy.
Good luck,
Gary.


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Sv: veijitas

by Frauley/Elson <fraulels/minet.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

> > Anton E. H=F8gh wrote:
 =

> I have another question concerning Veijitas, it=B4s a bit embarrasing b=
ut i
> can't destinguish the sexes. Also i have not been able to find any pict=
ures
> ind books or on the net. The guy at the store where I bought them was n=
ot
> sure if they really was Veijitas. The pairs I=B4ve got has a marble lik=
e
> pattern on their heads in a Bluish/green color and a "black patch on th=
eir
> tail" (Sorry about the terms) :-\ does that sound like Veijitas ?

Anton,
If they are veijitas, and are young, it isn't easy. veijita females have
a bit of colour for a female apisto, often even some red in the fins. As
the fish mature, the male should get a bright red on the outside margins
of the caudal, a greenish body to the female's bronze, and an extension
at the back edge of the dorsal. They sex out slowly, and grow slowly, so
they can frustrate.
A bluish/green head pattern is possible, if very discreet. If it jumps
out at you (I know this is subjective) and is striking, then it isn't
veijita. We had an importation of a fish sold as veijita a few years ago
with entirely blue/green marbled heads. They were pretty, but not
veijas. The misidentification, if it's the same, is interesting. =

Try Linke's Dwarf Cichlids, American Cichlids 1, tetra Press, for good
photos, if you can get it (run up to the rack in the petshop and look
fast!)
-Gary


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Mamore/veijita

by Frauley/Elson <fraulels/minet.ca>
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

mfjacobs wrote:

>and the ones from the ACA have already
> spawned, and we are wondering what percantage of the spawn will be the
> GOOD morph II males......10%...20%...70%...????
> 
> Thanks folks
> 
> Mike
> 
My own experience keeping veijita 2 for several generations (what a
beautiful fish!) is: first, you must have males, to see how your males
turn out... 
I had several 95% female spawnings, in conditions that gave me a good
ratio on my other apistos. They also develop quite slowly.
I'd love to see that morph again, for all the problems. It was easy to
breed, lovely to look at but touchy to maintain with its ratios.
-Gary
Mcmasteri is a great apisto, but I've seen some bone ugly wild morphs
around - no colour at all.


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Ap. viejita

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998
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PAR JANSSON wrote:

>  Hallo everyone. I'm new at this list and pretty new at apistos too.
>
> I wonder about the different colormorph of viejitas, how do they look
> like?

Pär,

Presently, there are 3 color forms of A. viejita. Photos of all three can be
found in Linke & Staeck's book  Amerikanische Cichliden I - Kleine Buntbarsche
(1984, 1992, & 1997 editions), and in their 1994 English translation of the 1992
German edition, American Cichlids I - Dwarf Cichlids. They all can also be found
in Koslowski's book, Die Buntbarsche der Neuen Welt - Zwergcichliden. The L&S
book provides very colorful photos of each species. Those in Koslowski are less
colorful, but it also shows the females of each color form. Look in any of these
for the differences in color forms.

Link & Staeck lists specimens of A. viejita from the type locality (Puerto
Gaitan, Colombia) as Color Form I (= Koslowski's Rotsaum (Red-rimmed)
Apistogramma). L&S's CF II (= Koslowski's Rotflecken (Red-flecked) Apistogramma)
is a species usually collected in small pools in the upper Rio Muco and Guarrojo
of Colombia. Their CF III (= Koslowski's Schwarzkehl (Black-chinned)
Apistogramma) comes from streams entering  the Rio Manacacias between Sta. Rita
and Bengale in Colombia.


> Even the differences between A.mcmasteri and A.viejita?

These two species are very closely related. Some apisto specialists even believe
they are only one species. Nevertheless both species are considered to be valid
by most ichthyologists. They can be separated by the following.

Body Shape (in wild males, both species of the same size):
A. macmasteri - deeper bodied
A. viejita - more slender

Caudal spot:
A. macmasteri - tall, narrow, oval
A. viejita - shorter, broader, oval to square

Lateral band:
A. macmasteri - broader, usually reduced to spots
A. viejita - narrower, usually zigzag-like

Lips:
A. macmasteri - usually pale and the same color as the snout
A. viejita - usually very dark indigo blue

I hope this helps.

Mike Wise

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