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Misc. Nannacara sp.

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  1. N. adoketa
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Wed, 09 Feb 2000)
  2. N. adoketa
    by "Bolton Museum, Art Gallery & Aquarium" <bolnathist/gn.apc.org> (Wed, 9 Feb 2000)
  3. N. adoketa
    by Marco Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org> (Wed, 09 Feb 2000)
  4. n bimaculata?
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Tue, 22 Feb 2000)
  5. N. Anomala
    by "Phil Eaton" <peaton/hotmail.com> (Fri, 10 Mar 2000)
  6. Nannacara sp.
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Fri, 23 Jun 2000)
  7. got nervous
    by BigJohnW/webtv.net (John Wubbolt) (Tue, 9 Jan 2001)
  8. Nannacara Aureocephalus
    by WnyZman/aol.com (Sat, 30 Dec 2000)

N. adoketa

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

Pete,

Based on the responses to your request, you can see that there isn't much
information about them out there. There is a good reason for this: 1) they are
rare not only in the hobby, but in the wild, too, and 2) they are not easy to
reproduce. I have never kept them but the species is reported to be highly
territorial and very aggressive. This means a large tank (> 4') if you plan to
keep a group together. They are a black water species coming from the middle to
upper Rio Negro and require very acid (< pH 5) and almost distilled water for
breeding success. Römer wrote a report on them in the German edition of Cichlid
Yearbook 1994. I assume it is in the English version, too. Hope this helps.

Mike Wise

"Bolton Museum, Art Gallery & Aquarium" wrote:

> Hi All. Anyone had any experience with this lovely little fish?
> A friend of mine is bringing some in and I'd like to know more about
> them so I can sound clever when I go to see them. I've seen
> images and some text but I've never talked to anyone who's
> actually had them.
> Pete Liptrot
> Bolton Museum Aquarium
> Le Mans Crescent, Bolton BL1 1SE
> 01204 332200
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N. adoketa

by "Bolton Museum, Art Gallery & Aquarium" <bolnathist/gn.apc.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com


> sorry I'm a bit behind the times...what are talking about? Nannacara? or
> as I suspect Nanochromis? what do they look like?
> 
They are a superb little Nannacara. Check the Apisto aqualog for 
an image.
Pete Liptrot
Bolton Museum Aquarium
Le Mans Crescent, Bolton BL1 1SE
01204 332200


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N. adoketa

by Marco Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000
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John Wubbolt wrote:
> 
> I wish you luck with them.   That's one of the those fish I have wanted
> to get ahold of for several years with no luck.   Good luck with them.
> 
> John

Our fish company recently exported some of this fish (N. adoketa) to 
England and Japan, did you get yours from any of these countries?
If so, it might be from our farm.




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n bimaculata?

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000
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Gary,

If you keep asking these interesting questions, I'll have written an entire book
on dwarf cichlids before long. Here goes:

The genus Nannacara was erected by Regan in 1905 for a strange little cichlid (N.
anomala)  that didn't fall into any other genus. It  is the only truly dwarf
cichlasomine genus, but Laetacara & Cleithracara are considered by most hobbyists
to be dwarf genera, too. Nannacara presently includes 7 species (5 described & 2
undescribed) that can be split into 2 species-groups. One of the groups can now
be split into 2 biological species-complexes. The two groups are the more
primitive bimaculata-group and the more advanced anomala group. These groups are
sufficiently different to actually be considered 2 different genera! N. hoehnei
is not listed here as one of the Nannacaras because it is actually more closely
related to Aequidens.

The bimaculata-group is a typical cichlasomine genus having a complete set of
frontal lateralis canal openings; an upper lateral line distant from the dorsal
fin along most of its length; a discontinuous lower lip fold; and 16 rays in the
caudal fin (See? You just had to ask!). The species in the bimaculata-group all
display wide vertical bars on their flank. They occur only in upland blackwater
streams in northern South America.

The anomala-group species are atypical cichlasomines showing a reduced number of
frontal lateralis canal openings; the upper lateral line extremely close to the
dorsal fin; a continuous lower lip fold; and only 14 rays in the caudal fin. All
of these reductions are considered advanced traits for cichlasomines, probably
due to body size reduction. All of the species in the anomala group develop
horizontal stripes with secondary vertical stripes - not the broad bars of the
bimaculata-group. The anomala-group is distributed along the lower coastal plains
from the Orinoco delta to south of the mouth of the Amazon.

The species can be divided as follows:

anomala-group
        anomala-complex
                N. anomala
                N. aureocephalus
                N. sp. Venezuela
        taenia-complex
                N. taenia
                N. cf. taenia (Guyana) (Stalsberg)
bimaculata-group
                N. bimaculata
                N. adoketa

>From what I understand N. bimaculata has entered to hobby only once, in 1997, and
all of the specimens turned out to be females.

Mike Wise


Frauley/Elson wrote:

> Hi,
> I was just looking at Dr. Kullander's site, and I saw a reference to the
> Nannacara bimaculata group. I am totally unfamiliar with this group. Can
> anyone (poor Mike again?) fill me in on this?
> -Gary
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N. Anomala

by "Phil Eaton" <peaton/hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000
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I'll second that very vicious female thing!  I had a successful spawning one 
time, and that was all the male could take!  He was very pretty, and at 
least 3 times her size... He hid alot after that, and I eventually traded 
the pair for some more "hospitable" fish.

My water was actually not as ideal as yours either, 6.8, fairly hard, but 
very "black".  There was a fresh bag of peat in the wet/dry filter.  I'm 
sure that's what encouraged the spawn.

Phil Eaton

----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>

Francine,

I know that this won't be of much comfort to you, but I and most people have 
no
problems with breeding N. anomala. I will admit most males are eager to 
court any
female that comes their way. Your tank and water conditions are fine (unless 
you
have them in saltwater). I'd suggest that you remove your "over eager" male 
and
put in another male and an extra female. If this works you may have to 
remove the
male & extra female once you have a spawn. If you think the males are 
aggressive,
you haven't seen anything until you see a brooding female!

Hope this helps.

Mike Wise

Fbethea wrote:

 > I recently bought several Anomala. I put them in a 20 long, ph 6.0, temp 
80
 > degrees.  The tank is heavily planted and has 8 white clouds and 8 c.
 > habrosus.
 > There are slate platforms under the plants, a large concave piece of
 > driftwood, and a whole coconut shell cut to create a cave.  I use an
 > aquaclear canister filter.  The water flow from the filter is very low.  
I
 > feed them daphnia, tubifex, frozen and live brine shrimp.
 >
 > I have had these fish for a month.  They will not spawn.  As a matter of
 > fact the male beats the he** out of the others so much that I removed 
them
 > and left one female in the tank.  He seeks her out and chases her around 
the
 > tank.  Are all Anomalas this cantankerous?
 >
 > Francine in MD
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Nannacara sp.

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000
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Just a side note on this thread. There are more than three "true" Nannacara
species in the hobby. Besides N. anomala, N. aureocephalus, & N. taenia, there
are N. sp. Venezuela & N. cf. taenia Guyana. "N". adoketa & "N" bimaculata
shouldn't be considered part of the genus Nannacara because of obvious anatomical
differences.

Mike Wise

WnyZman@aol.com wrote:

> A week ago there was a thread regarding the differences between the 3
> Nannacara species. Today I found and purchased some N. anomala at the store
> and have at home pairs of N. aureocephalus & N. taenia. If anyone is
> interested, I can bring all three to the Cleveland ACA so you can see for
> yourself.
>     Don
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got nervous

by BigJohnW/webtv.net (John Wubbolt)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001
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Hello Everyone

Well im going to be assured of having my N Aureocephalus fry now.
Tonight i pulled the free swimming fry out of the tank.   I saw dad
getting too close to the fry and mom was very aggressive towards him,
like he was trying to get at the fry and she wanted him to stay away.
So I siphoned off the group of fry.  I have over 50 or so fry.   So call
me nervous nellie but i wanted to have some fry from these guys.   I did
want to let them be raised by the parents but dad scared me too much.
Next batch of fry i'll let nature happen, which ever way it goes.  

John




Nannacara Aureocephalus

by WnyZman/aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000
To: apisto/listbox.com

Yes they probably were mine. Funny thing though, I have two trio's here now 
and never got them to spawn again. The females do get quite a pretty pattern 
somewhat like the Anomala's and I raised the fry with the parents for both 
the spawns I had before selling the breeders. I think the right male could at 
least take best in it's class as they are beautiful and have long flowing fin 
extensions. I have had males a full 4". Your water conditions up there in the 
frozen tundra should be perfect. Best of luck.
    "Z"




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