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Contents:

  1. Cichlid books
    by Anthony Zagar <azagar/MNSi.Net> (Thu, 12 Dec 1996)
  2. Cichlid books
    by Adrian Spidle <spidle/fish.washington.edu> (Thu, 12 Dec 1996)
  3. Books?
    by Erik Olson (e-mail) (Wed, 3 Sep 1997)
  4. Books?
    by Erik Olson (e-mail) (Fri, 12 Sep 1997)
  5. AQUALOG books
    by Fredrik.Ljungberg/saab.se (Mon, 01 Dec 1997)
  6. RE: AQUALOG books
    by Mike Evans <mikee/willowtree.com> (Fri, 28 Nov 1997)
  7. New Dwarf cichlids Book
    by Mike Evans <mikee/willowtree.com> (Mon, 1 Dec 1997)
  8. New Dwarf cichlids Book
    by Carlos Eduardo Alves Ribeiro <fish/montreal.com.br> (Mon, 01 Dec 1997)
  9. Mayland book: quick survey
    by Randy or Deb Carey <carey/spacestar.net> (Fri, 06 Mar 1998)
  10. NEW JAPANESE APISTO BOOK
    by Marco "T\zlio" Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org> (Fri, 17 Apr 1998)
  11. Apistogramma sp. "Pebas/Ampiyacu" ?
    by plasticolor/guate.net (Thu, 08 Oct 1998)
  12. unidentified sp. + photos
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Thu, 08 Oct 1998)
  13. Apistogramma sp. "Pebas/Ampiyacu" ?
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Thu, 08 Oct 1998)
  14. Sexing regani
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Thu, 28 Jan 1999)
  15. Special Christmas Gift
    by "V Kutty" <kutty/earthlink.net> (Mon, 28 Dec 1998)
  16. INDEX.; mass death
    by "Maladorno, Dionigi {DRUG~Nutley}" <DIONIGI.MALADORNO/roche.com> (Thu, 18 Feb 1999)
  17. Apisto book
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Thu, 19 Oct 2000)
  18. Belated hello
    by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com> (Thu, 15 Feb 2001)

Cichlid books

by Anthony Zagar <azagar/MNSi.Net>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996
To: apisto/aquaria.net

        Is the book by Linke & Staeck, American Cichlids 1: Dwarf Cichlids
worth purchasing?  Does anybody have it?  What about other books?

Anthony



Cichlid books

by Adrian Spidle <spidle/fish.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996
To: Anthony Zagar <azagar/MNSi.net>

On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Anthony Zagar wrote:

>         Is the book by Linke & Staeck, American Cichlids 1: Dwarf Cichlids
> worth purchasing?  Does anybody have it?  What about other books?

I have this book and like it very much.  Lots of photos, including some
habitat shots so you can get a feel for what would be outside the water
where the fish live.  The maps are handy.  Plenty of details on habitat
conditions at collection sites (at least for the species that I keep).

Some information is sketchy; for instance, w/ N anomola, they describe
courtship and breeding right up to the length of time it takes eggs to
hatch, but no discussion at all of fry development or parental care past
that moment of hatching.  (maybe they always eat their babies, like mine 
seem to)

The biggest problem for me is the translation; the editors seem to have 
painstakingly transferred the original German syntax into the English 
language version!

But in general a very nice book; showed it to someone at work who was
sufficiently motivated to seek out their equivalent book on East African
cichlids... 

Can't help you w/ other books.

Hope this helps,

Adrian


Books?

by Erik Olson (e-mail)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Darrell Laney wrote:

> What is considered to be the best book on Apistogrammas?

Not really a matter of "best", most like "only" books. :)
Here are the four main ones I know of:

1. Linke and Staek, Dwarf Cichlids, Tetra Press.
	Widely available, fairly accurate, good pictures

2. Aqualog "South American Book"
	Notso widely available, lots of pictures, some inaccuracies

3. Koslowski
	Out of print, older, detail on evolution to current complexes (?)
	In German only, though Mike Wise has a translation (if you have
	a real copy of the book)

4. Schmettkamp
	Out of print, in German only, Mike Wise has a translation (same as
	Koslowski).  Older book, kind of like Linke and Staek.

In addition, back issues of the Apistogram (if you can get them),
occasional articles in Bartbunsche bulletin (ACA), PCCA's Journal, Cichlid
News... I have heard rumors of an Uwe Romer book to be published sometime
too.

  - Erik

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Books?

by Erik Olson (e-mail)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

Ah, I hadn't even considered some of these. Some annotations. :)

On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Darren J. Hanson wrote:
> 
> In the back of The Apisto-Gram (The Official Newsletter for the Apistogramma
> Study Group) there is a page of 'Books for the Dwarf Cichlid Enthusiast'.
> Here is the list it may help.
> 
> 1.  The Cichlid Aquarium
>         1985, Paul V. Loiselle, Tetra Press

Not too useful once you get into the grit of Apistos, but a great general
cichlid book. This was the first one I bought and read cover-to-cover
several times before starting my first cichlid tank.

> 2.  Dwarf Cichlids
>         1988, Jorge vierke, T.F.H. Publications

Kurt Zadnik said at a talk I videotaped "The first dwarf book, and for a
while, the definitive one. A little out of date now."  I'm assuming the
1988 date is a reprint? 

> 3.  Complete Book of Dwarf Cichlids
>         1989, Hans - Joachim Richter

I have this book.  It's big in format and has lots of photos, and some
neat color drawings I see lifted from time to time (Aqualog seems to 
have used them in their introductary section).  I kinda despise it for
its mis-id'd fish, lack of particularly good information, and that they
consider convicts to be a dwarf cichlid. :)

> 4.  Amerikanische Cichliden 1
>         Kleine Buntbarsche, 1984, Linke, Horst & Staeck, Tetra Verlag

Out of date reference, this has been translated as "American Cichlids I:
Dwarf Cichlids".  Annotated in my last post... BUY THIS BOOK.

> 5.  Die Zwergcichliden Sudamerikas
>         1982, Schmettkamp, W., Landbuch - Verlag

Out of print.  Mike wise has a translation if you have the book.

> 6.  Die Buntbarsche Der Neuen Welt - Zwergcichliden
>         1992, Koslowski

Supposedly out of print as well.  Same deal with Mike Wise.  Someone on
this list said it goes into the evolutionary relationships between species
like no other... I want this book.  If anyone knows where it can be
located, drop me a line! 

> 7.  The Optimum Aquarium
>         1986, Horst & Kipper, AD aquadocumenta - Verlag

No info on apistos, or cichlids at all, but rather how to keep a high-tech
Dupla-style planted tank.

> 8.  The Cichlids of Surinam
>         Kullander & Nijssen

Hmm... This sounds most intriguing... anyone care to annotate this one?

> 9.  The Cichlid Aquarium
>         Revised 1994, Dr. P.V. Loiselle, Tetra Press

Twice as many photographs as the first printing!

> 10. Tetra's Popular Guide To Tropical Cichlids
>         1994, David Sands, Dr. Paul Loiselle, Dr. Wayne Leibel, Tetra Press

Have not seen this one.  Good authors. :)

> 11. The Biotope Aquarium
>         1993, Rainer Stawikowski, T.F.H. Publications

I *think* this is the book where they present ten or so tank setups, each
with a different biotope in mind (plants, fish, rocks, water, other
decorations). 

> 12. African Cichlids I
>         Cichlids From West Africa, 1994, Linke & Staeck, Tetra Press

Excellent reference (perhaps the only good one right now) for the riverine
dwarf cichlids.  Has all the zillion color forms of Pelvicachromis
taeniatus.  BUY THIS ONE too.

> 13. African Cichlids II
>         Cichlids From East Africa, 1994, Linke & Staeck, Tetra Press

For some reason, people I know don't consider this one as up to par as a
reference on the rift lake cichlids, so it doesn't get bought along with
the other two Linke & Staek books.

> 14. Dwarf Cichlids
>         1994, Tetra Press, Author unknown at this time.

Perhaps this is referring to Linke & Staek's translated version.  

> 15. South American Cichlids II
>         1996, Ulrich Glaser Sen., Wolfgang Glaser, Verlag A.C.S. GmbH, 	Germany

This is the "Aqualog" book we keep referring to.  If you've never seen
this book, think of an Axelrod atlas that has nothing but apistos and
other south american dwarfs.  OK, now imagine the id's are somewhat
better, :) and it's softcover and about 100 pages long.  This is your best
bet in finding a picture of an apisto.

I just did this so I can add it to my little archive; I wish I'd known
some of these things before I bought HJ Richter's (kinda expensive) book,
for instance.  Anyone else like to make additional comments on books, I'll
add them too. 

   - Erik

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AQUALOG books

by Fredrik.Ljungberg/saab.se
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

> Michael W McGrath wrote:
>> Darrell Laney wrote:
>>
>> How many supplements are out for the aqualog book that apply to Apisto's.
>>
> Last night I was checking out Mike's www site. He has all the books listed
> and which supplements are for each books. From what I saw each book only
> had 3 or 4 supplments.
>
> Mike McGrath

Hi all

There's only one supplement to the SA-Cichlids II (to date). It's
eight stickers with pandurini, sp "Paraguay" I and II and pertensis
(supposedly). The others are Newsletters. The Newsletters contains
articles on new species as well as two stickers. The two stickers
in the newsletters will not appear on any supplement (sales trick).
AFAIK Ap. sp "Pandurini" and Ap. sp "Mamore" have appeared in the
Newsletters (#1 and #2 respectively) and a new Nannacara species (#?).

Fredrik Ljungberg



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RE: AQUALOG books

by Mike Evans <mikee/willowtree.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997
To: "'Apisto-L'" <apisto/majordomo.pobox.com>

There are a number of places to get Aqualog books. I for one sell =
them.You can check my page at "www.ruralamerica.com/~mikee" or you can =
check out Anchor Bay Aquaruims web page. John F Kuhns also has a page =
located in the petsforum group. I can't remember there page addresses =
but with a little bit of searching they can be found. =20

I also have all of the supplements on hand that belong to the books.

Mike Evans 

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New Dwarf cichlids Book

by Mike Evans <mikee/willowtree.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997
To: "'Apisto-L'" <apisto/majordomo.pobox.com>

I have just recieved word that there is a new South American Dwarf =
Cichlids book soon to be available It will cover Apistogramma, =
Mazarunia, Dicrossus, Crenicara, Taenacara, Apistogrammoides, Biotoecus, =
and Microgeophagus.=20

It will cover the behaviour, the keeping in captivity and the breeding =
is depicted.

An absolute must for every freind of the South American Dwarf cichlids.

I have also been informed that there is some species in this book not =
currently pictured in the Aqualog book.

It is 190pp 140 full color pictures, maps.

The authors are: Hans-j. Mayland, Dieter Bork.

Now If anybody is intersted in this book I would be willing to sell them =
for a couple of bucks over cost plus shipping. I don't know what the =
exact price will be but the Base price is $52.00. The more that I buy, =
the cheaper they are. If I buy 50 of them They will be approx. 35% less =
in price. So the more I can sell the cheaper they are. If you are =
interested you need to let me know if you want a copy. I will have to =
know how many I need to order in order to give a definite price. Of =
course the shipping will be approx. $3.00.All funds must be in US.

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New Dwarf cichlids Book

by Carlos Eduardo Alves Ribeiro <fish/montreal.com.br>
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com


I`ve bought that book (in german) in Berlin in july. It's a very good book,
indeed. But I`ve expected more from Mayland ... His other huge book in
german "Cichliden" is better.



>I have just recieved word that there is a new South American Dwarf
Cichlids book soon to be available It will cover Apistogramma, Mazarunia,
Dicrossus, Crenicara, Taenacara, Apistogrammoides, Biotoecus, and
Microgeophagus. 
>It is 190pp 140 full color pictures, maps.
>
>The authors are: Hans-j. Mayland, Dieter Bork.
>



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Mayland book: quick survey

by Randy or Deb Carey <carey/spacestar.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

Mike Evans, who is offering the new Mayland/Bork book on dwarf cichlids, also belongs to the Minnesota Aquarium Society.  We just had our meeting tonight and he was there with the new Mayland book.  I assume there's a lot of curiosity, so I'll give a quick survey of the book.

**** Opening section:

* The Habitats of the S. Am. Dwarf Cichlids  (text, two double-paged maps).
* Short discussion of finnage and of patterns of color & markings.
* other misc. like synonymns and a summary of Kullander's diagnosis of Apistos.

***** Species:

 * 74 Apisto species.  Most of the common ones plus newer/rarer ones like aequipinnis, amoena, cruzi, diplotaenia, guttata, juruensis, moae, parva, paucisquamis, payaminonis, piauiensis, pleurotaenia, regani, ritensis, rondoni, roraimae, rupununi, staecki, sweglesi, taeniata, (2 subspecies of
trifasciata), uaupesi, urteagai, and the yet-described species:
"Rio Negro," "Brietbindedn," "Blutkehle," Gelbwangen," "Sunset," "Orangesaum," "Paraguay...I, II, III," "P;eixoto-Azevedo," "Rio-Caura," "Rotpunkt," "Smaragd," "Tucurui," "Vierstreifen," "Weibsaum."

The Dicrossus genus list filamentosus, maculatus, sp. "Dopplepunkt," and sp. "Dreipunkt."

**** Listing per Species:

The book has a look and feel like Linke/Staeck, but each species has a list of items which are discussed.  The items are:
* meaning of the specific name
* first description
* synonyms
* distribution
* habitat
* sexual dimorphism and coloration
* Total length
* maintenance in the aquarium and reproduction
* remarks

Not all of these are listed per species, but this suggests that the info which is listed is known.

On average, the book has about 1 color photo per page.  A species takes up about 2 pages for photo(s) and text.

**** Bonus!!!

The biggest treat is the blue insets listing the water parametersfor a particular location (e.g., "Lago Tarapoto," or "Rio Apeu").  I counted 22 such reports in the Apisto section. These listing include date/time of readings, water movement, depth, water color, vegetation, surface temp, pH,
conductivity, KH, total hardness, Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium, Iron, ...  (What more info coiuld you possibly use?)  These biotope descriptions seem to be tied to a distribution of one of the fishes in the nearby text, but the connection is seldom made salient.

By the way, I find such information of great value not just for my keeping of Apistos, but of other small S. Am. fishes (tetras in particular).

* Another big bonus is the distribution maps of similar species.  About three similar species are keyed with different shapes and plotted on a map of S. Am. rivers.  These appear throughout the book, but apparently near the text of one of the species.

For example, the distributions of agassizii, pulchra, and gephyra are plotted on a map along the text for agassizii.  The distributions of pertensis, iniridae, and meinkeni are plotted on a map next to discussion of iniridae.  That's the pattern.

*Bibliography: 8 columns of articles are listed.  I saw one dating as early as 1903

* * * * * * * * *
SUMMARY:

The book is a"must have" for us Apisto keepers.  I can't vouch for the accuracy of text content (yet).  It lists text and photos of new species, water parameters, and comparative distribution maps.

Unless someone demonstrates inaccuracies, this book will probably replace Linke/Staeck as my number one source.  (Linke/Staeck will still be a strong number two.)  I guess I expect Romer's book to have more and better text (simply because of Romer' reputation), but I don't expect the Mayland/Bork book
to be lost in its shadow.

--Randy Carey

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NEW JAPANESE APISTO BOOK

by Marco "T\zlio" Lacerda <marcolacerda/ax.apc.org>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998
To: apisto-list <apisto/majordomo.pobox.com>

Has anybody already seen the new Japanese book "South American 
Cichlids, Tropical Fish Collection 6, Pisces Publ."?

I've just got a copy, and can say the photos are superb.
This book also has photos of many new or undescribed species that 
other books don't have, like for example:

- Apisto "Rio Miua" (pages 40-41) [crazy fish, looks like a mixture of 
paucisquamis/mendezi/pertensi, with rounded tail!]
- Apisto trifasciata maciliensis (page 113 bottom) [the real species, 
not misidentified like in Bork & Mayland's book]
- Apisto sp. "Rio Mamoré" (pages 114-115) [same fish misidentified as 
A. trifasciata maciliensis in Bork & Mayland's book]
- Apisto sp. "Rondonia" (page 122 bottom) [same fish misidentified as 
A. pulchra in Bork & Mayland's book]; this fish is named "Erdfresser" 
in Germany (Koslowiski, in a recent issue of DATZ)
- Apisto sp. "Amapa I" and "Amapa II" (page 123)
- Apisto sp. "Arua" (page 125, top) [new undescribed fish from A. 
cacatuoides group]
- Apisto sp. "Alenquer" (page 121 top)
- Apisto juruensis, and aff. juruensis [respectively, from Brazil 
(Cruzeiro do Sul, Acre) and Peru (Pucallpa)
- Apisto agassizii, many different populations and domestic strains 
(pages 29-33): "super red" (page 29), "Rio Trombetas" (page 30, top), 
"Tefe" (page 30, bottom), "Tefe - red" (page 31, top), "Purus" (page 
31, bottom), "Rio Madeira" (page 32, top), "Alenquer" (page 32, 
bottom), "Tefe Macucuari" (page 33, top), Santarem (page 33, center) 
and "Obidos" (page 33, bottom)
- Apisto bitaeniata, different populations/forms: "Lake January" (page 
45, top), "Tefe Menerua" (page 46, top), "Tefe" (page 46, bottom), 
"blue type" (page 47, top), "red type" (page 47, center; also page 47 
bottom);

and many other dwarf cichlids rarely seen in other books.
I've heard that they are planning a German version of this book, but 
unfortunately didn't hear anything about an English version.
I believe it would be worthy.

Best regards, Marco.


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Apistogramma sp. "Pebas/Ampiyacu" ?

by plasticolor/guate.net
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com

At 09:21 PM 7/10/1998 EDT, you wrote:
>Thanks for the info Erik,
>
>I do have one question though. I actually went to grade school and junior
high
>in germany (or the german equivalent thereof) and consequently am fluent in
>German. I would much rather purchase books in the original languange, and
>besides, as you pointed out, some of them are only availible in german. So is
>there any way to get books in german besides going and getting them. (most of
>my current fish books are in German, but I got these when I lived or was
>visiting there and I have been wondering for quite some time if there was any
>other method of getting them.)
>I think my local pet store just ordered some aqualog books, I plan to go and
>check them out this weekend. (I have a cool local pet store)
>
>thanks again,
>tarah
>

Tarah

Try Zoo Hoefler in Nuernberg    http://www.zoo-hoefler.de
They distribute books from a series of publishing houses, including
Aqualog, Mergus, Tetra and others, as well as equipment.

Peter
plasticolor-at-guate.net


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unidentified sp. + photos

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com



Doug Brown wrote:

> what is the best way to get the Aqualog series?

I don't know about the entire series but the ASG has just started selling Mayland
& Bork's book, Southamerican Cichlids II, the supplements, and (I think) the
poster. Prices will be about 1/3 off normal retail prices. We can do this because
we're not out to make a lot of money, just to get the information out to those
who want it. We plan to have this up on the ASG web page soon, but until then
just send a SASE for a list of what's available to:

ASG Sales
P.O. Box 504
Elkhorn, WI 53121

Depending on response we may also add other even harder to get pubs.

> The prices direct from www.aqlog.com seem OK. And, what am I looking for?
> South American Cichlids I-IV and is it 5 supplements?

For dwarf species, you'll only need to get SA Cichlids I (Laetacara, Teleocichla,
dwarf pikes, etc.) and SA Cichlids II (Apistogramma, Apistogrammoides,
Taeniacara, Biotoecus, Crenicara, Dicrossus, Microgeophagus, & Nanacara). SA III
is on Central American cichlids and SA IV is on discus and angelfish.

Mike Wise

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Apistogramma sp. "Pebas/Ampiyacu" ?

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com



ProfPhilo-at-aol.com wrote:

> Greetings all you apistophiles,
>
> I am a newcomer to this list and have enjoyed all the email I've been getting
> the past few days since I signed on.
>
> I've been into cichlids, particularily dwarfs, for about 9 yrs now, but am
> just discovering the joys of online fish madness.
>
> Anyhow, can anyone give me any info on A. "Pebas"?
> I know that it is in the A. macmasteri group, but that is about it.
> so ANY info is appriciated.

Tarah,

A. sp. Pebas is actually more closely related to A. sp. Rotpunkt. I place it in
the same species-group. It was originally introduced into the hobby by Yamazaki,
et. al. in 1997 (in Japan). There is, however, an excellent little report on this
fish in Tetra Informationen #142, page 21 with a good photo. ASG members can get
a copy from me for the cost of copying (color or B&W) plus postage and handling.
It's reported to come from the Rio Ampyacu, a tributary of the Amazon just west
of the city of Pebas, Peru. I haven't heard of any problems breeding this
species, although I've not had it.

> Exactly what book have you been looking at pictures in?

Since your interested in books "auf Deutsch" I can recommend the following:

Linke & Staeck (1997) Amerikanische Cichliden I - Kleine Buntbarsche (Tetra
Verlag). This book is an updated version of the 1994 English translation of the
1992 German 4th revised edtion. It has more species listed in it than the English
edition. Interestingly, the German book not only is less expensive but also
better bound and printed on better paper, and comes with a dust jacket!

Mayland & Bork (1997) Zwergbutbarsche - Südamerikanische Geophaginen und
Crenicarinen (Landbuch Verlag). This is the original book that Aqualog published
in English as South American Dwarf Cichlids. The German version is much less
expensive. I've bought books directly from Landbuch in the past. They are very
helpful.

Glaser & Glaser, (1996 + supl.), Southamerican Cichlids II (Verlag A.C.S. GmbH).
This is the same Aqualog book mentioned so often on this list. It is written
side-by-side in both German & English so you can buy it here. I'd recommend
reading the German part; I cringe everytime I start reading the Germenglish
section (can't they afford an English translator?). This is basically a dwarf
cichlid picture book that is also intended to be used with Aquarium Glaser's fish
price lists (That's another story). Most of the fish are correctly ID'd, but
several are not and from the quality of some of the photos others are hard to
tell. Ignore the 'Determination Chart', it makes no sense at all. Still, this is
a valuable book to get. Verlag A.C.S. also puts out supplements (there are
presently 2 for this book) and Aqualog News. Aqualog News is a newspaper-like
quarterly that has dwarf cichlid articles in it from time to time. They print it
in several languages, so to get the German copy (and avoid the Germenglish
version) you'll have to subscribe through the German distributor.

Schaefer (1994) Erfolg mit Zwergcichliden (bede-Verlag). This is actually an
expanded version of a Japanese book by Matsuzaka, et. al. that's been translated
into German by a Dutch aquarist (Talk about international!). The first 3 chapters
have some really useful information. The rest is more of a picture book with some
superb photos. It includes genera not usually seen in dwarf books like
Cleithracara, Guianacara, & Teleocichla.

If you're lucky enough to find some old, out of print, books I'd recommend:

Schmettakamp (1982) Die Zwergcichliden Südamerikas (Landbuch Verlag). This is, in
my honest opinion (=imho?), still the best book on describing how to breed the
different species of dwarf cichlids. It virtually goes about this in
cookbook-like style. It also has an excellent bibliography that is set up by
species. Graham Rowe (Australia) still has copies of this book for sale. You can
contact him at hgrowe-at-blaze.net.au. For those English speakers who might be
interested in the book, I still have copies of my English translation available.

Koslowski (1985) Die Buntbarsche der Neuen Welt - Zwergcichliden (Edition
Kernen/Reimer-Hobbing GmbH). This is without a doubt the BEST book ever written
on dwarf cichlids. Although it's almost 15 years old, it is still accurate in
almost every detail. The only changes that it needs are to change some of the
names of  some then undescribed species to their more recently described species
names. This book goes about IDing dwarfs in a very logical way. None of this
alphabetical order garbage. All similar looking species are lumped together so
you don't have to go looking through the whole book just to find your fish. It's
still the only book to picture some of the rarer species. Anyone lucky enough to
have a copy of this can get my English translation from me.

There are 2 more dwarf cichlid books due out soon.

Römer (1998) Cichliden Atlas, Band 1 (Mergus Verlag GmbH). This is the book so
many apisto nut are looking forward to. It's supposed to have nearly 1400 color
photos and the largest bibliography on Apistogramma ever published. It was due
out earlier this year, but editing problems have set it back. The German version
is expected to cost around DM 79,00, not cheap.

The other book is the companion to Stawikowski & Werner's Buntbarsche Amerikas
Band 1. The above book is an expanded version of the authors' two books Die
Buntbarsche der Neuen Welt - Mittelamerika and Südamerika. It is being published
by the same publisher (Edition Kernen/Reimer-Hobbing GmbH). Hopefully,
Buntbarsche Amerikas Band 2 is an updated and expanded edition of the Koslowski
book.

Most of the publishers in Germany will sell directly to us in this country.  I've
bought books from both Landbuch and Reimer-Hobbing with no problem at all. Just
write to them and ask for a catalog and then order from it (ask about postage
while you're at it).  Hope this helps.

Mike Wise

> I eagerly await any enlightening  responses I may recieve,
> Thanks,
> Tarah
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Sexing regani

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999
To: apisto/majordomo.pobox.com



Susanne and Cory Williamson wrote:

> The Apisto books I have paroused (at the LFS- since I can't afford the
> outrageous prices they are charging- min $50) have shown various Apistos
> without showing any decent comparartive anatomy.

This is one of my main complaints with these books. They put the fish in
alphabetical order instead of grouped into similar species grouping. The Linke &
Staeck book, American Cichlids I: Dwarf Cichlids, should retail for $35 - $40. It
is presently the best, using line drawings,  at showing difference between
species. The best book at comparing apistos is Koslowski's Die Buntbarshche der
Neuen Welt - Zwergcichliden. He grouped species by groups and complexes.
Unfortunately it's out of print now and his revised edition won't be out for a
couple of years. I'm looking for a couple of copies of this book if anyone knows
where I can get them.

> What I need is a good well designed dichotomous key for the Apistogramma. Does
> such a thing exist (at least for the described species (or even the common
> ones)?

I know of a couple of people who have tried to do this using cladistic programs
but they came out gibberish. One problem is  that many of the characteristics
needed by the programs to work properly over the nearly 100 known species aren't
know for all of the species. Half of these species are still undescribed and half
of the described species are in need of redescription using modern methods.
Another problem is that there is so much evolutionary convergence in the genus,
as now understood, that many synapomorphic characters are lost in the mish-mash.
Instead of a nice branching cladogram these people got a briar patch of crossing
lines. Römer did an exceptional key for the cacatuoides species-complex. It was
originally published in DATZ, but the ASG did a translation of it in the
ApistoGram (v.14(1&2) #54/55:30-46). I can't think of any other keys that are
useful.

> I don't recall that Linke & Staeck describe the differences between the regani
> sexes (am I wrong).

I thought that the photos showed the obvious difference.

> I have a keen eye for this sort of biological minutia- but I am lacking the
> necessary information to make the call.  Is there a biological paper ( or
> somthing like this) that describes regani in detail.

Yes, the original description goes into detail on the species, as would be
expected. It can be found in a rather hard to get monograph: Kullander, S. O.
1980. A taxonomical study of the genus Apistogramma Regan, with a revision of
Brazilian Species (Teleostei: Percoidei: Cichlidae). Bonner Zoologische
Monographien, Nr. 14. Kullander just mentions that the soft dorsal rays are,
"rounded in smallest, in others pointed, produced in large males, at most to end
of caudal fin." He also mentions, "There is noticeable variation in colouration
between specimens from different collections (= localities). Young fishes tend to
be more yellowish in ground-, colour …".

> I am basically fairly certain that the three reganis that are similar are
> males- but I have a pair of A. borelli in the same tank and the three regani
> have behaviours that are more like the female borelli (in terms of activity as
> well as color markings) I assumed that Apistos would maintain behaviours
> peculiar to each sex across
> species (Bad assumption?).

Yes, especially A. borellii. Compared to other apistos it's one weird character.
The females breeding behavior and brood colors are rather unusual compared to the
average apisto. Females breed more like Nanacara anomala - egg hiders, not
necessarily cave spawners. They even spawn on vertical rocks and leaves, if
shaded and in a quiet locations. The males tend to be more parental than most
other apistos, too. They often take over complete control of a brood after a
couple of weeks, allowing the female to breed again. As most people will attest,
A. borellii is far from shy. This is probably due to something in their natural
habitat - maybe, like Dicrossus filamentosus, due to a paucity of predators. A.
borellii has many unusual features including a lower lateral line without sensory
canals and having no gill rakers (This in a geophagine??? Very atypical!)!

> The one thing that is still clear is that I have no idea- but thanks just the
> same, I appreciate the help- I think these Apistos are very cool!

So have I; for 25 years!

Mike Wise

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Special Christmas Gift

by "V Kutty" <kutty/earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998
To: <apisto/majordomo.pobox.com>

Mike,

A friend of mine, Bill Cain, has been looking into getting some 1:50,000
maps of the Amazon basin - of course, you only get tiny little portions of
the basin, but if you are going to, what we call 'Conkel-ize' (never mind
:-)) a small part of a river for Apistos, this may come in handy.  I'll let
all of you know if I find something. On a related note, does any one know of
detailed maps of the Amazon on CD?  This would be much better than getting
fifty 1:50,000 scale maps.  I have MS Encarta'97 but once you zoom in for
detail, none of the small rivers (and some big) have names.

Vinny



>Hi all. I hope you had a wonderful holiday. I just couldn't help but let
>you know of a great gift I got for Christmas. I got a pair of maps. One
>is of Brazil, Bolivia, Paraguay, & Uruguay. The other is a map of the
>entire Amazon Basin with even more detail! These are 1:4,000,000 scale
>(1"=100 km). The two maps cover both the Amazon & Paraguay/Paraná basins
>showing most of the streams and cities that we get so many of our fish
>from. Now if I can get the one for Venezuela, I'll have maps for
>everywhere our apistos are found.
>
>Mike Wise




INDEX.; mass death

by "Maladorno, Dionigi {DRUG~Nutley}" <DIONIGI.MALADORNO/roche.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999
To: "'Apistogramma List'" <apisto/pudge.listbox.com>

"alex pastor" wrote: <<<<< book on Cichlids
I just purchased the Paul Loiselle book on The Cichlid Aquarium.  Great
pictures etc. etc. But NO INDEX.
Should it have had an index, and the binders left out some pages, or what?
>>>>>>>

It was printed with no index, but if you call the publisher they will
send you a separate one for free. They even apologized to me!



Walter McCree" <wmccree@usa.net> wrote: <<<<<
Subject: mass death
(..)On Wed I had about 50 young ones.
I think they are too large now to be considered fry. The other day I was
watching the tank and all of a sudden it looked like one of the young Kribs
got shocked or something.  This happened to 6 fish in about 30 minutes.  All
fish appear to be healthy as far as color, activity and things like that
then all of a sudden they get this seizure and are dead in a matter of
minutes.
I immediately checked the water and all looked perfect.  Temp 76, ph 7.5,
Nitrate 0 ect.  I did a 50% water change that night but it didn't seem to
help.  I did another 50% one on Sat with no change.  I am down to the pair
of adults and 8 young ones.  Oh yea I have 2 small Plecos too.
Nothing in my routine has changed.  I feed twice a day, frozen brine shrimp
or frozen blood worms, I do 30 to 40% water changes 2 times a week, no new
plants or fish have been added, filtration is done by a Emperor 400.  I do
have a few snails in the tank, little rams horn, but they are under control.
I take them out and dispose of them while doing the water changes.
>>>>>>>>

If ammonia is OK (and probably it is OK indeed), and no new fishes 
have been added in several weeks, I would suspect either gill flukes
(which typically kill the fry and juveniles leaving the adults unharmed)
or maybe even Oodinium or Ich. The situation is not typical though, and
it's hard to make a good guess.
I would try to administer a treatment with formalin+malachite green, 
which would help in any of the cases mentioned above.
See details at: http://world.std.com/~enjolras/symtreat.htm

If the treatment helps, it may still not eradicate the problem, and
you should be careful in keeping an eye on what will happen in
the future. Also, as a prudential measure in case you have
other fish tanks, avoid absolutely to use the same equipment 
(hoses, etc) for other tanks, and wash carefully your hands before
of dipping them elsewhere. If possible, take care of the diseased
tank last, so that you further reduce the risks of epidemics.
I learnt this the hard way: once I introduced velvet in one of my
tanks through contaminated plants, and by the time the first 
symptoms appeared all my other tanks had been contaminated 
through wet hands and equipment. I now use separate vacuum hoses
for each tank, and dip my hands in a saturated salt solution
before of moving onto the next.  


Dionigi Maladorno
dionigi.maladorno@roche.com
This message presents personal opinions which are not necessarily those
of my employer.
 




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Apisto book

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000
To: apisto/listbox.com

Pete,

Actually, this is not a new book, unless it is now published in a second edition.
The complete title is "Erfolg mit Zwergcichliden" (Success with Dwarf Cichlids).
It was published in Germany in 1994, but is actually an expanded version of an
earlier magazine supplement from Aqua-Magazine (Tokyo) by Matsuzaka, et al. It
has some beautiful photograph, but will not replace books presently published in
English. If you like these photos, try getting a copy of the Yamazaki, et al.
(1997) Tropical Fish Collection 6: South American Dwarf Cichlid (IBSN:
4-938780-24-0; ¥2719). Photos in this book are superb with many species pictured
in it that are just now entering the European & North American hobby. In Japan it
is called the "Pisces book" because it is published by Pisces Publishers Co. Ltd.
With all the books and articles coming out of Japan, it looks like I may have to
learn Japanese!

Mike Wise

"Bolton Museum, Art Gallery & Aquarium" wrote:

> Sorry for the delay in writing about that book I talked about. I'd
> posted it to a friend who speaks German to see if they wanted a
> copy so I couldn't get the details until recently.
> The author is Claus Schaefer, I assume the title is Zwerg Cichliden
> but that's hardly surprising.
> The ISBN number is 3-927997-16-1, and it's published by Bede
> Verlag.
> I hope this is enough information for people to get hold of it.
> If any U.K. readers want a copy please let me know, and I'll see if I
> can get hold of any more.
>
> Pete Liptrot
> Bolton Museum Aquarium
> Le Mans Crescent, Bolton BL1 1SE
> 01204 332200



Belated hello

by Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise/bewellnet.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001
To: apisto/listbox.com

Tomoko,

There is a very nice book on dwarf cichlids published in Japan. The photographs
are exceptional. It is called "Tropical Fish Collection 6 - South American Dwarf
Cichlid" by Koji Yamazaki, et al. and published by Pisces Publishers Co. Ltd.,
Tokyo. I only wish that I could read it. If you are ever back in Japan you should
try to find it and its companion volumes on Corydoras (#1), Characin (#2), Discus
(#3), Guppy (#4), and Anabantoids (#5). I'd bet by now that they have other
volumes, too.

Mike Wise

Tomoko Schum wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I have been lurking in here for a couple or so weeks and even asked a
> question or two without properly introducing myself.  Please forgive my
> delinquency in doing so.
>
> I am a newbie to apistos, though not to the aquarium hobby.  I've had a
> small community tank for eons, since I was twelve or so.  During the process
> of a major move two years ago (from Alabama to Texas and back to Alabama), I
> gave up my aquarium.  Finally when I got settled, I decided to get back into
> it with a renewed interest in a planted aquarium.  Since I wanted to try the
> plants with high light requirement, I searched on the web and found "the
> Krib" site.  Soon one thing led to another and now I got the apisto fever.
>
> I am from Japan.  I cut my teeth on aquarium hobby back in Japan (thirty
> some years ago).  I've learned a lot since then but I am still learning a
> lot from the Krib, the Aquatic Gardeners Digest, and now from this list as
> well.  I hope to benefit from the good information exchange here and look
> forward to getting to know those of you who participate in the list.
>
> Tomoko Schum
> Madison, Alabama
> tomokoschum@earthlink.net




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